Date: March 4th 2010

Seonaid,

 

The "automatic insertion" of change bars never worked reliably for me (or any of colleagues) anyway.

I always had to turn it off in frustration and resort to manual "Esc c h" -- about the same amount of manual work as with the conditions, which give more graceful and flexible results.

 

Change bars produce ugly and unreliable results in tables and graphics. Beware if you use IXgen -- every expanded/collapsed marker will trigger an automatic change bar. That's what I remember from the top of my head -- it's been years since I last used the automatic change bars.

 

Mark Chulsky

Learning Product Developer

Emergency Care Solutions

Cardiac Care

Philips Healthcare

phone 978-659-4673,  fax 978-659-4878

 

From: Seonaid Welch [mailto:seonaid.welch@aecinc.com]
Sent: 2010 Mar 04 3:12 PM
To: Chulsky, Mark
Subject: RE: [Free Framers] Change bars for multiple revisions

 

Thanks, Mark.  I’m looking for a way to still have the same automatic insertion like the change bar style has.  I wonder if it’s possible to have a condition tag automatically set on any changed text, the same way FM can automatically set the change bar style on any changed text?

 

Seonaid

 

From: Chulsky, Mark [mailto:mark.chulsky@philips.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:47 AM
To: Seonaid Welch
Subject: RE: [Free Framers] Change bars for multiple revisions

 

Hi Seonaid,

 

Change bars won't help you, except in the simplest way.

Use conditional text for more intricate tasks.

In FM8 and above you can use Boolean with Cond.Text.

HTH

Mark Chulsky

Learning Product Developer

Emergency Care Solutions

Cardiac Care

Philips Healthcare

phone 978-659-4673,  fax 978-659-4878

 

From: Seonaid Welch [mailto:seonaid.welch@aecinc.com]
Sent: 2010 Mar 04 2:03 PM
To: Chulsky, Mark
Subject: [Free Framers] Change bars for multiple revisions

 

Hi Framers,

 

Short version:

Does anyone know of a way to track new changes separately from existing change bars in a Frame document?

 

Long version:

We have a situation where we need to track multiple in-house revisions of a manual separately.  We started from a customer’s existing documentation and are charging them per changed page, based on whether the page has major or minor changes.  BUT, we deliver a preliminary release partway through writing, so that the customer can get their project certified.  At this point, change bars let our QC department know what parts of the document to check.  Before releasing to the customer, these change bars are cleared, so that it’s a clean copy for the customer AND so that when the Rev. A comes through the QC department, they only have to check the Rev. A changes.

We can save a copy at initial release, clear the change bars on that copy, and send the clean copy to the customer, then continue making changes in the original files, and that would consolidate all the change bars in one file.  But then QC doesn’t know which changes they have already checked at the initial release and which are new to the Rev. A.

 

Problem:

We are billing based on the TOTAL changes made from the customer’s original, both in our initial release and in our Rev. A, but for QC purposes we need to visually separate the change bars made at initial release from those made in subsequent revisions.  Does anyone know of a way to visually separate different iterations of change bars like this?  Or have ideas of a different way to get the same effect?

 

Thanks,

Seonaid

 

Seonaid Welch | Narrative Writer

AEC | When Excellence is Essential
P: 503.668.0656 x225

 

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